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Dunders

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Bossom
« on: August 18, 2018, 05:03:14 pm »
Hi, all,

The new addition arrived today - thanks to NLM and Ben Wyllie.

Far from original, but runs well, plays a great soundtrack and brings a wide grin. 

One of the POs has removed the seat springs, and I will replace them: does anyone have any they'd part with, or a lead to some that are languishing somewhere?  Jake commented that some owner(s) have replaced them with hairpin springs, which may be an easier option (?).  Does anyone have links to this?  Thanks.

The papers that came with the bike imply that the oil mod was done and then removed because of smoking.  I take Jake's point about it being a necessary mod, so I'll do it over winter.

The tyres are OLD, but have worked well so far in the dry.  I'll replace them over winter.  Other than the points, I'll just ride it for now.

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Bossom by Paul Dunderdale, on Flickr

Bossom 3 by Paul Dunderdale, on Flickr

Bossom 1 by Paul Dunderdale, on Flickr

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 06:21:26 pm »
Mine was the one that started smoking when I added the line. You can probably buy one cheap from NLM. I raised the idle slightly and it only smokes now when the oil level is high, which I think is more to do with splash than anything else. Oh and it smokes when on the sidestand, which rather proves the point. Don't run car oil in it and don't follow NLM's advice as to valve clearances. I put raisers on the front seat mountings as standard it's set up for italian dwarves.

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2018, 09:33:40 am »
Looks very swish! I'm pretty sure that reproduction springs are still available for the seat. They appear on eBay periodically from someone in Europe. There's not much traffic on here these days, as everyone's moved onto our Facebook group, so you might get a better response on there.
If you look on eBay, there are plenty of coil and hairpin springs to choose from, to satsfy the current bobber craze...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2499334.m570.l2632.R2.TR2.TRC1.A0.H1.Xsolo+seat+springs.TRS0&_nkw=solo+seat+springs&_sacat=10063

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 03:50:15 pm »
At least here you can look up a problem/solution

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2018, 04:19:34 pm »
True, and you don't need to persuade me that a forum is far more useful than Facebook for that. Trouble is, people see (rightly) Facebook as easier for posting stuff, especially pictures, and most forums are dying as a result... :(

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 06:11:09 pm »
Thanks, both. Delay in response is due to the Festival of Motorcycling (the 'Manx', dammit.  It didn't need re-branding!) and guests.  Busy Busy.

I try not to use FB more than is necessary to keep up with family and interests, and I try to post as little info there as possible.  It's probably a pointless paranoia, but it's *my paranoia*....  Give me a forum any day!

There are a few springs on the Bay that might fit the bill.  What length are the stock springs?  Most of the bobber seat springs lack the sensible Guzzi fixing.  Not insurmountable, but an unnecessary PITA.

Some nice Guzzis at Jurby today, but I didn't see a NF.  Mine didn't go as I was ferrying guests.  Next year....

Back to the partying!

Paul

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 03:36:28 pm »
The spring has 2 mounts, one in line with the centreline of the spring, and the top mount which is at 90° to the C/L.
spring by bancquo
From the centreline of the top mounting hole (not the top of the spring) to the mount for the bottom is about 80mm on mine. Diameter about 50mm. Wire guage about 4mm (guesstimate).
If you're a big lad, I've heard of springs bottoming out over bumps. Some people fitted a squash ball inside the coil to resolve that.

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 12:39:08 am »
Thanks for that, Jake.  I'll look for springs that fit the bill.  And probably for some squash balls, too...

At Jurby yesterday and Peel (the Moddey Dhoo show) today I saw some very nice Guzzis, but no NFs!  At the Italian Bike evening in Pt Erin my T3 was sandwiched between 2 Magni Guzzi's (one from LeMans 1 and one from LeMans V donor bikes.  I miss my Lemon V - or at least the LaFranconis!).  Beautiful!  Oh, and did I mention the Mike Hailwood rep Mille?  and the V7 Sports?  Some fantastic Italian iron.  The Benelli Sei, the Magnis and the MVs gave a stirring soundtrack!  Thanks, Moddey Dhoo!  (and VMCC!  Today's VMCC ended at the other end of Peel.  Some wonderful bikes to view/lust over: please excuse my shaky handwriting!).

Like all Prima Donnas, the NF made its mark today:  I've owned it for a week-and-a-half and done 300+ miles and it's never missed a beat.  Today, in front of an audience waiting for the soundtrack, it refused to start (and left me embarrassedly begging for the loan of a plug spanner...[1]).  All good in the end, and nice to re-affirm that moto folk are generous, kind and helpful.  Of course, the T3 played tricks this evening, too... They must communicate!

The fun we have!
Paul

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2018, 08:50:46 am »
Sounds like fun; I would have enjoyed that.
In my experience, if the NF refuses to start, and assuming you're using the right starting process, then there's something wrong. It's happened only twice to me in the 16 years of ownership, and both times it was the coil. When I got it, the original Bosch had an intermittent fault, and a few weeks back, the same thing happened again, when the Joe Lucas replacement gave up the unequal struggle with vibration.
The rest of the time I can start it with my hand (yes, really).

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2018, 10:02:16 am »
if the NF refuses to start, and assuming you're using the right starting process,

Hit the nail on the head.  I didn't use the right starting process...  And once flooded, the plug had to come out.  And I didn't have the toolkit (it was in the T3...).  Just the Stupidity of the Day [®]. 

Last night the T3's starter solenoid decided to click into inaction - big click, no current passing.  I had the basic toolkit, but not Guzzi Fettling Tools 1-3 (various hammers).  Fortunately I was at the top of the slope (for once!).  This morning it seems to work properly one in four or five starts.  Hopefully sorting it will only be a a 15 minute job.  If not, it will be expensive.  You don't own Italian Motorbikes.  You merely have the pleasure of paying their bills.

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Re: Bossom
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 08:11:23 am »
Aye; parts are not cheap, although I was pleased at my Joe Lucas coil for sixteen quid....